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Originally posted by KerrAvon: ↑

Kudos to you for your patience in posting this sort of thing. I think the "evidence vs yelling" debate is not where the action is. I would prefer to leave the fringe conspiracists to their echo chamber.

I think we need to convince "moderates" that we are now facing worse outcomes, and much sooner than has been predicted. Basically the sort of apocalyptic disasters we were warned of by the end of the century are now on target to happen much sooner. The energy transition is too late, too slow. We need to switch off coal, oil and gas now, before renewables are ready to replace them. The transition is taking too long and the extra emissions in that time will be deadly. It will be far worse than the economic effects of immediate energy austerity.

I don't think it will be possible, politically, to achieve that switch-off. It will only happen AFTER the disasters ramp up considerably. In that case, the best course of action is to simultaneously focus on adaptation. Think about how you and your family will fare if there is a week of 50 degree temperatures, or if your city faces a "day zero" for water, like Cape Town did. What about a worldwide dip in food production, creating a new inflation breakout and a climate recession, like covid but permanent? This is the sort of thing I think is possible in my lifetime.

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it's hard to refute the irrefutable but that's what noisemakers hereon who deny the impact of anthropogenic climate change try to do.

posters with names like @flatspin @willial @shaneos @birdman29 @zipperlip et al.

imagine the arrogance behind the endlessly recycled garbage @flatspin posted above with nothing more than Because He Said So as a source.

These denying noisemakers are in no way moderate with their recitation of cult cliches from their fossil fuel producer-sponsored echo chamber.

it takes an extremist to deny science and to deny what's happening directly in front of them. It takes an extremist to trash science - one of the pillars of our civilization - so more dollars can be stuffed into the pockers of the already wealthy.

after all, what could possibly go wrong with anything when you transfer trillions of tons of carbon to the air from previously stable deposits underground of oil gas and coal in the blink of a geologic timescale eye. What could possibly go wrong.

KerrAvon i have no patience with these denying noisemakers. They're actually idiots who bought the dummy, lock stock and barrel.